CBGee Gee: Revealing The Beautiful Truth About CBD Oils

Horses, and dogs, and cannabis, oh my! Horses, and dogs, and cannabis, oh my!!

And why not?

After the last ice age, nomadic tribes rarely went anywhere without a few cannabis seeds tucked about their personage or luggage. It was positively de rigueur! This symbiotic joint migration (pun definitely intended) of plant and people was initially in the company of their canine followers but a few thousand years later the equines tagged along for the ride too.

This happy band of plants and animals colonized the planet together so it is no wonder there remains a long-standing association. The only thing that confuses me is why it took us so long to share the benefits of the co-travelling plant with our dogs and horses.

Talk about Bogarting…

I first heard of CBD oil being a “thing” when a Bipolar friend started Vaping with it and told me how much she felt it was helping her maintain a more level “wave”. Then not long after I noticed that another friend who has a horse food store here in France started stocking it for equine use.

I didn’t really pay that much attention to start with.

And then I happened to watch an interesting video about CBD and CBG oils by Brett Edyvane of

I asked him if he would be up for an interview. And he said yes.

Nice!

So here it is…

Ellie: Hi there! Thank you for agreeing to this interview. Tell us a bit about yourself. I thought your video was fascinating. Especially the fact that our body has receptors specifically for CBD. This implies we should be regularly consuming CBD oil to function correctly. Is this the case?

Brett: Hey there! Ah, your message really made me smile, thank you. I’m looking to grow my CBD business and want case studies from equine folk. People who will be honest and upfront about their own personal experience. Much as I am about my own. I’m a CBD consultant on Facebook with good quality products and support. Focusing on equine health.

You are right in saying that constant use of CBD is the best way to balance your signal system (the endocannabinoid receptors), dosing each day for all creatures with a sternum:

  • Humans
  • Cats
  • Dogs
  • Horses and so on

Sensitive horses are where I’ve seen some positive results. Now I’m not saying cure or miracle and all that. I’m also not a vet, nutritionist or certified in CBD yet! I’m a very good and keen researcher and have learnt a tonne on CBD since 2010 when I suffered my own ill health.

CBD and the body’s Endocannabinoid System absolutely fascinate me. I’ve researched so much for us humans for many years now but recently I’ve switched my attention to horses.

How they interact and react to CBD is mind-blowing.

Case studies are what I’m super passionate about. I have 5 in progress currently and have great feedback on 2 so far.

is leading the way with case studies on our equine friends. I can’t find anyone else doing the same.

Very exciting!

Ellie: That is amazing! And I will certainly come back to the subject of case studies. But first, you mentioned the body’s Endocannabinoid System. Can you tell us a little about what that is?

Brett: The 1964 discovery of THC (tetrahydrocannabinol) and CBD (cannabidiol) led to the 1988 discovery of the Endocannabinoid System (ECS) at the St Louis University School of Medicine. Basically, it is the body’s cell-signalling system acting as tiny project managers to maintain balance on the whole body.

The ECS is the largest receptor system and the master regulator of homeostasis in the human body. Its discovery prompted discussion of how and why cannabinoids interact with CB1 and CB2 receptors to treat a vast number of illnesses. The ECS acts as a chemical bridge between body and mind. It regulates blood sugar, immune function, muscle and fat tissues, hormones, pain centres, reward centres, and metabolic functions.

Ellie: We have all heard of CBD oil by now but in your video, you mentioned CBG too. Please can you explain what that is?

Brett: What makes CBG oil different to CBD Oil? CBG or Cannabigerol, like CBD and THC (the compound that causes the ‘high’), is a cannabinoid, so it’s one of many chemicals found in cannabis plants. The difference is, however, that CBG is often referred to as the ‘mother’ of cannabinoids because it’s the precursor from which all other cannabinoids, including CBD and THC, are created.

There’s a bit more to this answer but, I wanted to keep it brief. We can also do a deep dive later on if you think people would want it.

Ellie: I think people would be interested. We can certainly do a whole series of articles on this.

Brett: It’s said that the way we live, away from our true link with nature removes us from the things that would keep us optimal in our health. This is why our receptors stop working probably and our immune response is weakened.

The same can be seen in dogs, horses, and any other mammal that is taken out of its natural habitat:

  • Dogs that are high energy living in flats or small kennels
  • Horses penned in one small paddock or kept in stables long-term
  • Zoo animals pacing

CBD works by lowering the enzymes that break down cannabinoids once they have done their jobs. Making our cannabinoids more viable thus boosting our ECS system, if you like.

Ellie: No wonder humans have always had such a fascination with the cannabis plant!

I am very interested to know more about your current case studies. Are you able to share with us more details about them?

Brett: Setting aside helping many people come off of toxic pharma drugs and replace them with CBD,
I am now working with horses and their handler/owners/human-parents. Two of my case studies will be going live on my soon. The desire for our oils and helping horse owners has overtaken the business model. The 2 cases both involve reactive horses that can be tricky to ride and handle in general.

The first study is our boy Blue, a Warmblood cross Arab who had extreme reactions to crab flies to the point he was dangerous. And could not be ridden. But during this summer he’s been ridden out most weeks once or twice in the heat.

However, he did have a troublesome ride out the other day. There were just too many flies and he got stressed. My wife Sarah managed to stay and see the ride out but it was a challenge.

So, although CBD/CBG is not a permanent fix it certainly is playing its part in giving a coping mechanism that wasn’t there before.

Sensibly though, Sarah has decided to not push him when it’s hot and the flies are in abundance. For everyone’s safety.

The other study is of 2 horses owned by a friend of Sarah’s. One is also a little hot to handle, he struggled through the villages but after one week of oils once a day at 1-3 drops, he walked through that trouble village without reaction. So, there is a noticeable change for the better there.

Our mare cob has reactive asthma. We have issues every year with hay and last year had the vet out as she had suffered an attack that could have been bad. So far since being on CBDa and now our mixed CBD CBDa CBG CBGa, we’ve seen this almost go completely.

She has coughed a few times but, there is a lot of dust around and these coughs have been when she is grazing dusty ground. Could it be the hay allergy? Yes possibly. But again we’ve noticed a significant decrease in symptoms.

We have more case studies underway and will keep you posted

Ellie: Yes, please. I would love to know how they get on. And talking of case studies, I have just started using the oils this week with my Belgian Warmblood, Lotus, who is also hyperreactive to flies of all sorts. So, watch this space!

Tell us, what CBD products do you sell?

Brett: I sell: CBD, CBDa, CBG, CBGa, pure CBGa paste, and ready-made oils at 1500mg x 10ml. We can also make up any strength oil to order for ailments requiring more of a dose and hit.

Soon, we will have:

  • Gummies (sweets)
  • Vaps
  • Horse treats infused with CBD
  • Hoof clay infused with CBG – this one I’m particularly excited about

I can supply 1-litre tubs of pure CBGa paste if anyone wants to buy in bulk and make up their own oils. This works out much cheaper. Price on request.

Ellie: Nah! Tell me now how much per bottle?

Brett: 1500mg x 10ml = 95€ or 70€ for a case study customer. And the pure paste by the litre is 1800€

Ellie: Where can we buy them from?

Brett: I am the main reseller for the whole of France and will have increasing stock as the company grows. You can place orders directly.

Ellie: Cool.

Once administered how long before an effect is obvious? Are we talking immediate, or is the effect accumulative?

Brett: Two weeks is the time scale that CBD builds in the system, however, we’ve seen instant results with horses.

Ellie: In your video, you say to hold the drops under the tongue for as long as possible to get the best effect. Do we dose horses the same way? How do we get them to hold it there for as long as possible without them swallowing?

Brett: Under the tongue is best as it gets to the bloodstream faster. Now, horses and dogs may not like the taste so, as with pharma drugs we need to get creative and add things they love so they take it easy. Cheese, marmite, and so on. Some will take it as they trust their handler.

Ellie: I am assuming the cheese and Marmite is for the dogs lol. Although I bet my Welshie would eat it. Are any horses allergic to CBD and related products?

Brett: I’m sure there will be cases of some body resistance to CBD but, due to my case studies and those of others being so recent I’ve not seen or heard of any as yet.

Ellie: Although you can’t overdose in the narcotic sense I suspect you can get too much of a good thing. What are the effects of having too much? You mention humans can get a tummy upset, would this translate to colic in a horse?

Brett: CBD actually aids colic and has shown great results when administered correctly. An ‘overdose’ in CBD would simply be taking too many drops for your particular body. Everyone is different as with drinking alcohol, we all have different levels of tolerance.

I’ve seen, upset tummies in humans but, nothing serious just mild discomfort.

I’ve seen temporary anxiety which sounds odd but, when broken down they just took too much too soon. Or too strong of an oil for their needs. When they reduced the dose this went away. It meant that the person had a low tolerance to supplements and didn’t need as much CBD.

CBD doesn’t generally cause anxiety, it relieves it. Taking too much oil can give the feeling of anxiety in a small number of people. It’s easily reduced.

This is why I always recommend starting your CBD journey with a specialist in the field.

Ellie: I will say that the consultation call I had with you before starting the oils with Lotus was just brilliant!

Are the oils you supply only to be taken internally? Can they be used externally in massage for painful or inflamed areas, for example?

Brett: Yes correct. CBD can be used topically and has shown positive results on joint pain, arthritis, hoof care, and instant relief from hives, bites, and stings. And much more. Watch this space for our hoof care CBD coming.

Ellie: It sounds like magic. Do you have a list of issues a horse can be treated for using CBD oil?

Brett: I could create a list, it’s not something I thought of. It’s a great idea.

I am starting a string of videos on individual ailments and their results with CBD plus any science I can find. So far I’ve covered:

  • EMS
  • MMII
  • Colic
  • Cushing’s
  • Asthma both acute & reactive
  • Behavioural – mainly the brain

This list will grow as I am being asked a lot in messages from so many horse owners. It’s quite humbling and feels great to be able to help as many horses and owners as I can.

Ellie: Is it okay for horses in FEI competitions to use CBD? Will it affect any drug tests?

Brett: Actually a good question as until now I’d been told (I didn’t look it up which is unlike me!) from a good source that the Irish race scene had been using CBD and had excellent results and wins with their CBD’d race horses.

However, much like the human world, the powers that be banned the use of cannabinoids and made it a straight failure in drug testing saying it made horses docile and calm. This came from one man high up and, unfortunately, other eventing circuits followed suit banning CBD also. An uneducated decision in my and many others’ opinions.

However, FIFA introduced CBD use into the elite football arena in 2018…!

Ellie: Bonkers!

One more question – you mentioned that you would soon be selling hoof care products with CBD oil. Can you use it for laminitis?

Brett: Love this last question. Laminitis is inflammation of the laminae. CBGa works great as a powerful natural anti-inflammatory in the body. So, the short answer would be yes. I can’t wait to work with a case study for this horrid disease…!


Thank you so much to Brett Edyvane of for taking the time to chat with me. If any of you have any questions please feel free to pop them in the comments section and either Brett or myself will respond.

As mentioned during the interview this is the first in a series of articles and case studies about CBG and all her babies so if any of you would like to be part of the ongoing research then please contact Brett Edyvane via his Facebook page by clicking the link above.

If you enjoyed this article then here is a video teaser for one of the case studies…

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